making a replacement pinion gear

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Alber:

  Your next step is to use the "Add to project" for both the master and pinion gears.
This will create 3d representations of them. From there though you hit the problem of how
to make them. The best way is to 3d print them as machining a bevel is near impossible.
 
  You can cast from a 3d print, but an 80 tooth bevel is likely too large for a 3d printer
at 66 inches. Gearotic will basically save the stl of the gears for you , but with bevels its
up to the user to find a machining solution..

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Re: making a replacement pinion gear

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Thanks Art. I only need the pinion gear. So I will trya lost wax plaster she'll process that I developed for casting zinc molds for plastic injection molding.
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OK, I think that I added them to the project.
-Do I need to do something with linkage?
-On the cement mixer, the teeth on the ring gear are radial, in the same plane, rotated 90 degrees? What angle is that even called and how do I rotate it in that way?
-The pinion also has to rotate so that its shaft is parallel to a spoke of the large gear.
-The pinion gear shaft is not in the same plane as the large gear.
-There are a lot of options under the Circular Gear Module tab like Tooth Form like under Wheel, Pitch Shift, Height Stub, Rack Shift, Under Type (i.e. Spur, ... Bevel)

Sorry to ask so many questions. Is there a better place for me to look for these answers?

Thanks in advance
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Hi Albur:

  What you have on the screen is a master and pinion spur gears. When the shafts exist at 90 degrees to each
other you use a bevel gear. Its a selection on the gears tab. When in bevel gear mode the shafts will mate at an angle to each other. In your case that angle is 90 degrees.

BUT, and its a big but. By your description what you have is a machine that has an unconventional
gearing. They have made circular tooth forms sticking upwards around a circle on the large ring
and then the pinion is a normal looking gear, flat in 2d, but with circular teeth? Is that the
scenario you face? Can you take a photo and tell me what your trying to make as replacement
in it?

  A non standard tooth form isn't easy to make but its doable, be easier if I could see what you have
and what your up against.. It sounds more like your dealing with a crown gear of some sort and
Gearotic doesn't make crowns as they some in too many varieties and each have their own
limitations.

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Re: making a replacement pinion gear

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Art thanks for your time and help. I have attached some photos.

This is the back end of the cement mixer.https://photos.app.goo.gl/nxUv8bf2MtiSb2sL7

A closer look https://photos.app.goo.gl/FZJ4bTSXZfMJyGdL8

The profile of the teeth on the large gear https://photos.app.goo.gl/AeqqvqWzU3uuJ1yo7

The small gear held near where it goes https://photos.app.goo.gl/AeqqvqWzU3uuJ1yo7

Where it goes. https://photos.app.goo.gl/v4msMeddm2fxQ7Qo6

Some teeth on the small gear are very worn down. Almost to a point.https://photos.app.goo.gl/v4msMeddm2fxQ7Qo6

On the opposite side, they are only slightly worn. https://photos.app.goo.gl/JSV5TrXrjWraVU3t8I don't know if this is an indication of some sort of misalignment or just a case of once it starts in one spot that spot gets to the brunt of the wear.

It makes a lot of clanking noise when it runs. I figured that I would find a broken race or broken ball bearings but it looks like there are only bushings. Kinda makes sense. It never gets going very fast.

I hope the pictures help and thanks for any help.
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