New Release Version 4.90.02

[John T]

Hi Art
I really like your creation. I expected to see that escapement in a clock. But your kinetic creation is just great. It looks like the. "balance" wheel is a little off balance so that you get more rotation in one direction that the other - counter intuitive to my mind.

John

[Ken_Shea]

Pretty cool Art,
Not sure what it does but it's fun too watch :)

[SkyMoBot]

That's really cool.  Are you going to provide that as a sample project?

[ArtF]

>>That's really cool.  Are you going to provide that as a sample project?

  Yes, I think Ill use it as a tool to aid in explaining Chrono escapements
in the upcoming video on them, and Im planning on a second video talking
about things to consider if building your own kinetic motor. How they can be
used and what to consider when building one. Ill also post the tap files, dxf's
and drawings for anyone who wishes to build one. There doesnt seem to be any
real classification or name for this genre of kinetic art, so I'm proclaiming
them "tickers" or "Hobbit Clocks" ( Hobbits like the tick but dont care about time.. :-) ),
or at least thats what Ill tell people asking me what the hell is on my wall... lol

    There are two masters of them on the web , Clayton Boyer and David
C Roy, they do absolutely excellent sculptures, if you havent seen them
you really should google them. What Id like to do this coming year is post
a few examples of how they work, how to design them and make them...
if theres interest...Its an interesting study of gravity, escapements and balance...

Art

[David Sohlstrom]

Art

I DLed what I believe is the current ver. When I change my set up so my C axis is pointed X-- tool paths in 4th axis go all haywire. If I change to X++ paths are fine.

Dave

[ArtF]

Thx Dave:

  Ill run a check on X-- .. Any idea what seems screwy? Is it an inverted Y axis or something?

Art

[danmauch]

That would be really cool. As you know I built a kinetic art project using ed legler's concentricity as a guide.
He got his inspiration from the guys you mentioned. I now have Horsing around running for 1hr 30 minutes. Here is a link to the old video before I fixed some issues. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOpZjSS- ... _lolz  I could only get it to run for 30-40 minutes at first but then found that my spacers were lightly dragging on the bearing shield. Once I fixed that the improvement was substantial.
Thanks again for  making the chrono escapement available.
Dan Mauch

>>That's really cool.   Are you going to provide that as a sample project?

  Yes, I think Ill use it as a tool to aid in explaining Chrono escapements
in the upcoming video on them, and Im planning on a second video talking
about things to consider if building your own kinetic motor. How they can be
used and what to consider when building one. Ill also post the tap files, dxf's
and drawings for anyone who wishes to build one. There doesnt seem to be any
real classification or name for this genre of kinetic art, so I'm proclaiming
them "tickers" or "Hobbit Clocks" ( Hobbits like the tick but dont care about time.. :-) ),
or at least thats what Ill tell people asking me what the hell is on my wall... lol

     There are two masters of them on the web , Clayton Boyer and David
C Roy, they do absolutely excellent sculptures, if you havent seen them
you really should google them. What Id like to do this coming year is post
a few examples of how they work, how to design them and make them...
if theres interest...Its an interesting study of gravity, escapements and balance...

Art

[ArtF]

David:

  Nver mind.. I found it. Thanks for the bug report, its fixed for next release. Yell if you have need of the fix earlier..

Art

[ArtF]

Dan:

  I think there seems to be sufficient interest to delve a bit into tickers.. Ill post plans for the one I built, and I
intend to build more, they are very mesmerizing and great wall art. (Your video shows as private..cant see it..)

  I know a lot of people have said they admire this type of art, but dont think its easy to build. They are pretty easy
with some thought and experimentation. They seem to have a few secrets and tricks, and Im sure its possible to get real
deep into mysterious motion, so I'll make a video on constructing this "Gearotic Ticker#1" , make its plans public
domain and see if we can interest people in making more of them.

Art

[ArtF]

Hi All:

For anyone interested, here is the final sculpture..though its designed to have changeable vanes so its never really complete..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkuX-VCXtSo

 Cost was about $30.00 in wood, and abouit 16 1/4" bearings that I get from Ebay in bulk lots when I can find them.
Runs about an hour or two on a wind..Should look impressive on a wall upstairs. :)

Art

[Dan]

That's COOL, Art!

Dan

[danmauch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOpZjSS-nXo
I unprivatized the setting in youtube- should work.
I love your version . Sort of looks like davids frolic. I love it. Hope to see the plans.
Did you laser cut a lot of the parts?
Dan

Dan:

   I think there seems to be sufficient interest to delve a bit into tickers.. Ill post plans for the one I built, and I
intend to build more, they are very mesmerizing and great wall art. (Your video shows as private..cant see it..)

  I know a lot of people have said they admire this type of art, but dont think its easy to build. They are pretty easy
with some thought and experimentation. They seem to have a few secrets and tricks, and Im sure its possible to get real
deep into mysterious motion, so I'll make a video on constructing this "Gearotic Ticker#1" , make its plans public
domain and see if we can interest people in making more of them.

Art

[ArtF]

Dan:

  I do like that design as well. Do I hear the telltale clicks of a chrono like escapement in there? It hides its design well and looks good!

>>Sort of looks like davids frolic. I love it. Hope to see the plans.
Did you laser cut a lot of the parts?

  I will put out the plans shortly, but theres a bit more to do on it
till I hang it ( hopefully next week.). The only laser cut parts are the vanes
flipping about on the outside, all other parts are cnc cut of hand cut on the
bandsaw ( tooth trigger plates and such). I think what Ill do is a video showing
the process from GT designing, to CAD changes to the output, to structure
and build just so people who have never done such a thing can get over
some of the less obvious bumps in the process..

Art

[danmauch]

There are pins in the inner and outer flywheels. On the center gear there are 2 pawls . The click sound is from the pawls sliding over the pins. Since that video was taken I reduced the sound quite a bit by placing a piece of heatshrink over the pins I bet silicon rubber tubing would even be better. Ed Legler provided me with some drawing of the timing.  The way it works is that the inner flywheel slows  and the outer flywheel slows then the pawl on the outside of the center gear catches a pin. That is just enough to allow the pawl on the inner side of the center gear to release momentarily to allow the constant force spring to rotate the gears before the inner pawl catches again. If you are interested I can email you Ed's  drawings.
Dan Mauch

Dan:

  I do like that design as well. Do I hear the telltale clicks of a chrono like escapement in there? It hides its design well and looks good!

>>Sort of looks like davids frolic. I love it. Hope to see the plans.
Did you laser cut a lot of the parts?

   I will put out the plans shortly, but theres a bit more to do on it
till I hang it ( hopefully next week.). The only laser cut parts are the vanes
flipping about on the outside, all other parts are cnc cut of hand cut on the
bandsaw ( tooth trigger plates and such). I think what Ill do is a video showing
the process from GT designing, to CAD changes to the output, to structure
and build just so people who have never done such a thing can get over
some of the less obvious bumps in the process..

Art

[ArtF]

Ahhh..No, now that I look again with your description I see how it works. I have one I built
last year with the same principle, the two flywheels must be turning in opposite directions
AND the main must be turning CW to hit the trigger.. Its a clever implementation of the type
used in Roy's Monarch.. nice.


Art