My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
Art,
Huge question:
Can I make the gear in the attachment, including all those different
sized drilled holes in Gearotic???
RR
Huge question:
Can I make the gear in the attachment, including all those different
sized drilled holes in Gearotic???
RR
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
For that youd need CAD. Id use Vectric for example, I load Gearotics gear DXF, then add drill holes.
Eventually, youll probably be able to do that, but till then , youd need a cad/cam program
to add such features.
Art
Eventually, youll probably be able to do that, but till then , youd need a cad/cam program
to add such features.
Art
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
I only have a paper copy, no dxf file for this Genesis Clock from Clayton Boyer.
Would Vetrics' Cut to Desktop work, it is much cheaper than the Carve program.
I would have to buy more plans from Boyer in .dxf format.
(or just cut the gear in Gearotic and drill the holes myself)
RR
Would Vetrics' Cut to Desktop work, it is much cheaper than the Carve program.
I would have to buy more plans from Boyer in .dxf format.
(or just cut the gear in Gearotic and drill the holes myself)
RR
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
Yes, Desktop is fine..very useful if you make Boyer type things... As far as getting the dxf's, if its a gear, you can probably duplicate it in Gearotic, just figure out its approximate DP and adjust till its exactly the right size. To do that, create a round gear with the right number of teeth. Then adjust DP or Module up or down till outside diameter is the same as the drawing... pretty close at that point..
Art
Art
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
How do I make the base circle smaller while maintaining the outside diameter?
I want the gear frame? to be wider to accommodate the hour numbers.
RR
I want the gear frame? to be wider to accommodate the hour numbers.
RR
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
Dependsa what you mean by "base circle", try the % settings for Rim % and such in the top panel..
Art
Art
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
Yes........Yes..........Yes............
I never looked up there..........just at the bottom controls....
What a dope....
I never looked up there..........just at the bottom controls....
What a dope....
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Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
If you purchased paper plans from Clayton Boyer, e-mail him and ask him to send you a DXF copy, he probably will.Rocket wrote: I only have a paper copy, no dxf file for this Genesis Clock from Clayton Boyer.
Would Vetrics' Cut to Desktop work, it is much cheaper than the Carve program.
I would have to buy more plans from Boyer in .dxf format.
(or just cut the gear in Gearotic and drill the holes myself)
RR
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
My post may have gotten buried in the rapid back and forths on this topic.
If you have a set of printed plans, take the time to learn ins and outs of the gearotics program..It's amazing how powerful the tools are in Gearotics to create gears even when only vague info is available..
Bill
If you have a set of printed plans, take the time to learn ins and outs of the gearotics program..It's amazing how powerful the tools are in Gearotics to create gears even when only vague info is available..
Bill
aawfm wrote: Hi Art
Up to now I've been ignoring the Augie portion of your software because I have no CNC or automated methods. I concentrate solely on simulations. As you already noticed my emphasis so far has been on a Chronometer and a tower clock simulation. I'm working on a video that would highlight the workings of the two simulations.
To add a DXF import/CAD capabilities to Augie would be handy.
A hack to get DXF gears inserted into Gearotics would be to know from a CAD program the overall dimensions/tooth count/shape, or other specs of the gear contained in the DXF and then use Gearotics tools to match the key parameters using the Calculate (diameter or shaft spacing) to fine tune things.
When I first started a Chronometer simulation project, I had a description of the chronometer and rough scale drawings of gear outlines (see jpg). I used a simpler program, a gear template generator http://woodgears.ca/gear/index.html, to get an idea of what the gears would look like. After I printed out the gear outlines and overlaid them on the drawings I thought that it would be cool to simulate the mechanism. That's when I discovered Gearotics and felt it would be a worth a try.
For the tower clock simulation, I had access to the mechanism and was able to measure gear diameters (or sometimes circumferences), tooth counts, shaft spacings, etc. and used the tools in Gearotics to build the simulations.
The resulting simulations are close enough for me to illustrate the workings of the mechanisms.
Bill
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
Bill :
You will see some sort of DXF manipulation facility, in fact the latest Auggie can load GCode or DXF's , let you change them in various ways,
and re-save them as DXF's. (I just havent gotten around to explaining how yet as I'm not yet done that module.
I cant say Ill be able to import a gear for simulation, unfortunately its much more complex than that to deal with the
simulator, it relies on drawing order, angular derivations and such and so it out of the scope of what a user would typically
want to do. However, that having been said, I can see where it would be handy to export your own extrusions for use in Gearotic,
such as glyphs and numbers for dials, and to have drawing capability to make clock faces and such, and be able to export
Gcode to make them if one desires. I find myself already headed down that path.. ( though that's likely to be a long path.. :)
My plan is to blend G code and DXF's in Auggie, and allow drawing of DXF type layers. I will gradually add power and functions
as I find them useful, or by request as the system gets going. Its approaching the time I tend to slow down for the summer,
(though I haven't for the past 2 years, I will be taking some time this summer to stretch and relax a bit more..but youll continue
to see incremental additions to both programs.).
:)
Art
You will see some sort of DXF manipulation facility, in fact the latest Auggie can load GCode or DXF's , let you change them in various ways,
and re-save them as DXF's. (I just havent gotten around to explaining how yet as I'm not yet done that module.
I cant say Ill be able to import a gear for simulation, unfortunately its much more complex than that to deal with the
simulator, it relies on drawing order, angular derivations and such and so it out of the scope of what a user would typically
want to do. However, that having been said, I can see where it would be handy to export your own extrusions for use in Gearotic,
such as glyphs and numbers for dials, and to have drawing capability to make clock faces and such, and be able to export
Gcode to make them if one desires. I find myself already headed down that path.. ( though that's likely to be a long path.. :)
My plan is to blend G code and DXF's in Auggie, and allow drawing of DXF type layers. I will gradually add power and functions
as I find them useful, or by request as the system gets going. Its approaching the time I tend to slow down for the summer,
(though I haven't for the past 2 years, I will be taking some time this summer to stretch and relax a bit more..but youll continue
to see incremental additions to both programs.).
:)
Art
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
Art
I forgot to add Rocket's name to my repost.
Rocket has printed plans...therefore he has info on gear dimensions, shaft spacings, tooth counts. Gearotics is a powerful tool that Rocket can use to build the dxf's of the clock...but to do that requires practice with the tools provided in Gearotics and patience to recreate the gears of the printed plan.
Bill
I forgot to add Rocket's name to my repost.
Rocket has printed plans...therefore he has info on gear dimensions, shaft spacings, tooth counts. Gearotics is a powerful tool that Rocket can use to build the dxf's of the clock...but to do that requires practice with the tools provided in Gearotics and patience to recreate the gears of the printed plan.
Bill
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
Good Points Bill:
I use music as a metaphor, CNC is like learning an instrument. Takes years
and practice.. not to say you cant play a few licks after a bit of practice..
Art
I use music as a metaphor, CNC is like learning an instrument. Takes years
and practice.. not to say you cant play a few licks after a bit of practice..
Art
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
Art and Bill,
Since I am clock building I need "ticks" not "licks", though
I must admit licks sounds okay too.
I have two sets of DXF files from Clayton Boyer. I guess my
next move is to purchase Cut 2 Desktop so I can make the parts.
When will we be able to import dxf files into Gearotics?
I hope I stay alive long enough to "get" it.
On the light side, here is a photo of my Polaris Slingshot that I
install a turbocharge on last year.
Rocket
Since I am clock building I need "ticks" not "licks", though
I must admit licks sounds okay too.
I have two sets of DXF files from Clayton Boyer. I guess my
next move is to purchase Cut 2 Desktop so I can make the parts.
When will we be able to import dxf files into Gearotics?
I hope I stay alive long enough to "get" it.
On the light side, here is a photo of my Polaris Slingshot that I
install a turbocharge on last year.
Rocket
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
That looks fast. :)
>>When will we be able to import dxf files into Gearotics?
Probably by next season in one form or another..
Art
>>When will we be able to import dxf files into Gearotics?
Probably by next season in one form or another..
Art
Re: My new Shapeoko 3 is it just me?
Art,
Create the gear in Gearotic. Post it and save it to a file.
Set up machine in Universal G code Sender. Everything works
great except for makes that same cut from lower left corner of
material all the way to center where it starts to drill shaft.
Line of cut is about 10 inches long and ruins an almost perfect job.
Attached G-code .tap and photo of simulation as it was cutting
so you can see the white cutting line all the way to the center....
I am stuck...
rocket man............Thank you....
Create the gear in Gearotic. Post it and save it to a file.
Set up machine in Universal G code Sender. Everything works
great except for makes that same cut from lower left corner of
material all the way to center where it starts to drill shaft.
Line of cut is about 10 inches long and ruins an almost perfect job.
Attached G-code .tap and photo of simulation as it was cutting
so you can see the white cutting line all the way to the center....
I am stuck...
rocket man............Thank you....
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